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	<title>This Old Vancouver House &#187; restoration</title>
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	<description>Home renovation to restore this old house back to the 30s</description>
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		<title>This Old House 101</title>
		<link>http://www.thisoldvancouverhouse.com/2009/10/16/this-old-house-101/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lola</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it&#8217;s last minute, but I spotted this in a community paper &#8211; Vancouver Heritage Foundation is offering an all-day class on old building/house conservation this Saturday (Oct 17).  See their site for all the details.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s last minute, but I spotted this in a community paper &#8211; <a href="http://www.vancouverheritagefoundation.org">Vancouver Heritage Foundation</a> is offering an all-day class on old building/house conservation this Saturday (Oct 17).  See their site for all the details.</p>
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		<title>Lessons From Refinishing an Old Window</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several weeks ago I was pretty psyched about finding a couple great old doors and a fantastic old double hung window for a tiny fraction of what they would have cost new.
The honeymoon is long since over. I&#8217;ve spent weeks with chemicals and heat guns stripping the several layers or latex and oil and whatever [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several weeks ago I was pretty psyched about finding a couple great old doors and a fantastic old double hung window for a tiny fraction of what they would have cost new.</p>
<p>The honeymoon is long since over. I&#8217;ve spent weeks with chemicals and heat guns stripping the several layers or latex and oil and whatever paint from all the fine grooves&#8211;and both the doors and the windows are really nothing but fine grooves.</p>
<p>Here are some of the lessons:</p>
<ul>
<li>Call around to paint supply stores (not Home Depot, but places that only supply paint) to find a lead paint test kit.Â  Here in Vancouver the <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=1250+Venables+vancouver+bc&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=35.136115,66.708984&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=49.277045,-123.078568&amp;spn=0.00707,0.016286&amp;z=16&amp;iwloc=addr" target="_blank">General Paint store on Venebles</a>Â is just about the only place you&#8217;ll find these kits.</li>
<li>A heat gun is better than chemicals on long flat runs of wood, and if timed just right can get multiple layers up just as quickly and easily as a single layer of paint.</li>
<li>You have to be very careful not to burn the wood with a heat gun.Â  You won&#8217;t start a fire, but it will blacken the wood, which is almost as bad as a fire if you&#8217;re planning to stain rather than repaint.</li>
<li>Chemicals are better for stripping the paint from the details &#8212; and the harsher the chemical the better.Â  With multiple layers of paint the amount of time water-based strippers take would have stretched this ostensibly simple project out by months (seriously).</li>
<li>Here is most of the stuff you will need:
<ul>
<li>At least 2 saw-horses or stands. If you have more, then you can strip more objects at the same time.</li>
<li>Any old half-inch paint brush</li>
<li>Largest tin of PolyStrippa you can get. Poly seems to be slightly better than Circa 1850.</li>
<li>A 1&#8243; or 2&#8243; putty knife</li>
<li>A heavy paint stripping knife</li>
<li>A small and large plastic paint stripping knife</li>
<li>Some 220 grit sand paper</li>
<li>A couple different sized wood blocks to wrap the sandpaper around. Make sure you have at least one thin wood strip, which will help you sand those fine crevices.</li>
<li>Some steel wool.</li>
<li>A pairÂ of leather work gloves to help avoid getting slivers as you sand.</li>
<li>Lots of rags or newspapers to wipe tools and the last bits of paint. Careful with the newspaper as the ink might run.</li>
<li>A metal container about the size of a pop can for the chemical stripper. I ended up lining a small plant pot with tin foil.</li>
<li>A heat gun with an extension cord.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Add to your total cost many meals because you simply won&#8217;t have time to make anything yourself.</li>
<li>Add to your total cost aÂ ruined pair of pants and shirts, because you&#8217;ll drip the chemicals and softened paint all over yourself.</li>
<li>Be careful with the heat gun on the glass &#8212; the heat might crack it.</li>
<li>It will take you about 5 times longer than you first expect.</li>
<li>And lastly: Do not, unless you really, really need a period original window, undertake this task.Â  Just get a brand new window made.Â  The price, whatever it is, will be worth it.</li>
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		<title>Good Deals Can Be Found</title>
		<link>http://www.thisoldvancouverhouse.com/2008/09/12/good-deals-can-be-found/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Over the past couple of weeks we&#8217;ve picked up some really good deals.



pic
item
paid
regular





Ginger Empire bathroom lights
From Cantu
$5 each
$657 each
from manufacturer



Jado 818 bathroom faucet (some missing parts)
From eBay
$47
$589
fromÂ manufacturer




1920s Hoosier Cabinet
From Craigslist
$500
$750 +
from other craigslist
and eBay postings



95&#8243; double-hung window
From Demolition sale we randomly drove by
$200
$1500
From similar Pella
and Marvin windows



Glass back door
From Demolition sale we randomly drove [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="tt-flickr tt-flickr tt-flickr-Thumbnail" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2850940715_552b5a88dc.jpg"></a> Over the past couple of weeks we&#8217;ve picked up some really good deals.</p>
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<th>item</th>
<th>paid</th>
<th>regular</th>
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<td><a class="tt-flickr tt-flickr tt-flickr-Square" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2850940715_552b5a88dc.jpg"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2850940715_552b5a88dc_s.jpg" border="0" alt="bath_lights_ginger_empire" width="75" height="75" /></a></td>
<td>Ginger Empire bathroom lights<br />
From Cantu</td>
<td>$5 each</td>
<td>$657 each<br />
from manufacturer</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a class="tt-flickr tt-flickr tt-flickr-Square" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2851772898_02bd648d02.jpg"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2851772898_02bd648d02_s.jpg" border="0" alt="bath_faucet_jado" width="75" height="75" /></a></td>
<td>Jado 818 bathroom faucet (some missing parts)<br />
From eBay</td>
<td>$47</td>
<td>$589<br />
fromÂ manufacturer</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a class="tt-flickr tt-flickr tt-flickr-Square" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2851875542_6850aee441.jpg"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2851875542_6850aee441_s.jpg" border="0" alt="hoosier_cabinet_top" width="75" height="75" /></a><br />
<a class="tt-flickr tt-flickr tt-flickr-Square" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2851873220_21c39ba604.jpg"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2851873220_21c39ba604_s.jpg" border="0" alt="hoosier_cabinet_bottom" width="75" height="75" /></a></td>
<td>1920s Hoosier Cabinet<br />
From Craigslist</td>
<td>$500</td>
<td>$750 +<br />
from other craigslist<br />
and eBay postings</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a class="tt-flickr tt-flickr tt-flickr-Square" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2794940208_ecb90a0e60.jpg"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2794940208_ecb90a0e60_s.jpg" border="0" alt="window_front_03" width="75" height="75" /></a></td>
<td>95&#8243; double-hung window<br />
From Demolition sale we randomly drove by</td>
<td>$200</td>
<td>$1500<br />
From similar Pella<br />
and Marvin windows</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a class="tt-flickr tt-flickr tt-flickr-Square" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2794092933_03cd7c34e3.jpg"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2794092933_03cd7c34e3_s.jpg" border="0" alt="door_front_02" width="75" height="75" /></a></td>
<td>Glass back door<br />
From Demolition sale we randomly drove by</td>
<td>$150</td>
<td>$800<br />
From solidhardwood<br />
doors.com</td>
</tr>
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</table>
<p>We&#8217;ve discovered these and other great deals by things like craigslist, ebay and random encounters.</p>
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		<title>How to Remove a Double-Hung Window</title>
		<link>http://www.thisoldvancouverhouse.com/2008/09/11/how-to-remove-a-double-hung-window/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I removed the double-hung windows from the demo house. Â It proved to be a lot more work than I had expected. Â This is because I didn&#8217;t know what I was doing&#8211;but not for lack of trying. Â I spent a lot of time searching for information on how to remove a double-hung window and frame [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I removed the <a href="http://www.thisoldvancouverhouse.com/2008/08/25/finding-old-wood-windows/">double-hung windows from the demo house</a>. Â It proved to be a lot more work than I had expected. Â This is because I didn&#8217;t know what I was doing&#8211;but not for lack of trying. Â I spent a lot of time searching for information on how to remove a double-hung window and frame so they can be reused elsewhere. Â Most of what I found was mostly useless. Â So given the dearth of a decent how-to, here&#8217;s my shot at it.</p>
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<p>To start off, here is a list of all the stuff you should bring:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>A step ladder.</strong> This is important to comfortably reach the top of the window to remove the shims, nails, and/or screws. Â If the window uses iron weights you will be able to comfortably undo the knots that hold them, rather than reach up draining the blood from your hands and arms when you need it most.</li>
<li><strong>A tall ladder.</strong> You&#8217;re probably going to have to pull some of the trim on the outside.</li>
<li><strong>Cats claw.</strong> You&#8217;re going to be busting up later, pulling out lath, and prying off layers of wooden trim, and this is a whole lot better than a crowbar.</li>
<li><strong>Hammer.</strong></li>
<li><strong>Small putty knife</strong>. Â I say small because the smaller knife surface will give you more leverage as you use it to pry apart tight spots.</li>
<li><strong>Masking tape</strong>. Â You won&#8217;t remember what goes where, so use masking tape to write labels on absolutely everything you touch.</li>
<li><strong>Permanent marker.</strong> No point in writing a label if you can&#8217;t read it later.</li>
<li><strong>Safety glasses.</strong> There&#8217;s going to be a fair amount of debris, some of it coming from the top of the window right in your face.</li>
<li><strong>Face mask.</strong> You&#8217;ll want to keep the debris out of your lungs as well as out of your eyes.</li>
<li><strong>Gloves</strong>. Â Unless you&#8217;re hands are already made of leather, they won&#8217;t stand up to all the sharp nail ends, lath splinters, and coarse surfaces.</li>
<li><strong>Reciprocating saw</strong>. Â If you get stuck, this handy device will often be able to cut you out of it.</li>
<li><strong>Metal cutting blade.</strong> If there are any nails securing the window frame, a metal cutting blade for your reciprocating saw will go though them like butter.</li>
<li><strong>A camera.</strong> Helpful to take shots of everything just in case you get messed up later when trying to put it all back together again.</li>
<li><strong>Long extension cord</strong>. Â Just in case there is no power available near the window, and you need that saw to get you out of a jam.</li>
<li><strong>A partner.</strong> There are times when you need 4 hands and need to be in 2 places at once.Â  Getting someone to help is just easier.Â  You won&#8217;t need him or her till the very end.</li>
<li><strong>Slurpee and a snack.</strong> You&#8217;ll be doing lots of banging, so you&#8217;ll need to keep your energy up so you don&#8217;t get tired and wack a thumb or send your hammer through the glass &#8212; seriously, bring drinks and a snack.</li>
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<p>Now here are the steps I took to remove the window (cleanded up a bit through hind-sight):</p>
<ol>
<li>Break some of the plaster at the top right or left hand corner of the window.Â  This should allow you to easily get an edge of the catsclaw behind the trim.Â  Pull gently and slowly.Â  These nails could be 70 years old.Â  The trim boards will be pretty long, so they&#8217;ll be fairly flexible.Â  Still, don&#8217;t try to pull the corner out all the way.Â  Pull it out a bit, then move down and that out a bit, and work your way across the board.Â  Then do it again from the beginning, and repeat till the last nail pops.</li>
<li>Place each piece on the floor behind you in the same configuration it had on the wall.Â  Label each piece you remove with a description written on a piece of masking.Â  Try to you a permanent marker on the tape.</li>
<li>Now remove the trim panels covering the spaces between each window panel.Â  In my case I had 3 window panels, and so 2 trim panels.Â  This will expose all of the counter weights.Â  We&#8217;ll deal with them a bit later.</li>
<li>Remove the lath and plaster from behind the trim you just removed from around the window.</li>
<li>Close all of the window sashes &#8212; unless you want them to crash when you remove the counter weights.</li>
<li>Remove each of the iron counter weights.Â  That can take time.Â  The cords are likely very stiff, and very grimy.Â  There will be 4 for each window panel.Â  Each window panel has an upper and lower sash (hence the term double-hung), and each sash has a counter weight on the left and right.Â  These weights are what hold the sashes in place when you open them.Â  I had a total of 12.</li>
<li>Now you need to remove the lower sashes.Â  There will likely be a thin strip of trim on the right and left side of the sash.Â  each strip will be nailed into the frame.Â  These strip hold the sash in place while you open and close it.Â Â  These strip will also likely be sealed to the frame by several layers of paint.Â  Use the edge of the putty knife to score through the paint.Â  Score several times, but not too hard because you don&#8217;t want to damage the wood.Â  You just want to get through the pain so you can work the putty knife between the strip and the frame.Â  Once you&#8217;ve got that, work very slowly and carefully with the putty knife to pry the strip away from the frame.Â  Remember, you&#8217;re fighting both nails and age old paint.Â  And also remember that this strip is probably very thing, and too much muscle will easily snap it.Â  Pull out the knife and score the paint a little more if its giving you trouble.Â  Once you can fit the catsclaw in without forcing it, you can use both the putty knife and catsclaw to pry the stip off.Â  You only need to remove 1 strip for each sash.</li>
<li>With the strips removed, pull the sash cord through the pully and pops out the side of the sash where you just removed the strip.Â  This should require next to no effort.Â  Repeat for each bottom sash.</li>
<li>Removing the exterior trim is going to be hard.Â  This is the stuff that has been exposed to elements for longer than you&#8217;ve been alive &#8212; probably longer than your parents have been alive.Â  The nails will be big and rust, and some of the wood may have almost fused together.Â  Depending on the kind of trim it may be easier to push it out.Â  What I mean is that the back of the exterior trim should be open to you because you removed the lath and plaster from around the window.Â Â  Take a peice of wood about 1 foot long.Â  One of the old lath pieces might work, but a 2&#215;4 would be better.Â  From the inside start at the bottom of top of the trim, placing the wood peice on backside of the trim and hammer away it.Â  This should loosed the trim without damaging it.Â  This should give your catsclaw enought space to get in and pry.Â  Be careful, the exterior trim wood could also be brittle, so it you want to keep it pry only a little at a time.</li>
<li>Almost there.Â  At this point your window should be open to the outdoors almost the entire way around.Â  It will likely be secured by both shims and nails.Â  It might be easiest to remove the shims by going outside and knocking them back in.Â  This may take a lot of muscle.Â  Carefull not to loose your grip and break a window.Â  You will likely only need to remove the top shims.</li>
<li>Get someone to hold the window.Â  While it should be completely level, this is the point where you&#8217;re going to release it, and it may fall in or out.Â  Use a flashlight to see where the nails are securing the bottom of the frame.Â  Then use your reciprocating saw with a 4+ inch long metal cutting blade to slice off all the nails hold the bottom.Â  You&#8217;ll be surprise how easy this is.Â  Cut through any nails on the sides, and then top if there are any.</li>
<li>Now with your partner try to lift the entire window frame to make sure it is completely released.Â  If it won&#8217;t budge make sure you removed all the top shims, and make sure you cut all the nails.</li>
<li>Before moving the window frame notice that the window sills both inside and out are wider than the hole in the wall.Â  In other words, you can just tip the window pull.Â  First lift it slightly, and then shift it either left of right as far as it will go.Â  This should be enough to get the edge of the sill on the other side passed the wall opening.Â  Pull that side in the house, and then pull the other side in.</li>
<li>Ta Da!Â  You&#8217;re done.Â  Now you just have to get that thing home, clean it up, strip it, satin or paint it, replace the cords, fix the damage, mount it in your wall, and replace all the peices.Â  Ah, but its all worth it&#8230; hopefully.</li>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now our kitchen has a couple awkward window that face onto the back yard.Â  We want to open this up with a single large window centered on that wall.Â  This of course means getting the window soon because we&#8217;ll be opening up the wall when we demo the room, and we can&#8217;t leave an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now our kitchen has a couple awkward window that face onto the back yard.Â  We want to open this up with a single large window centered on that wall.Â  This of course means getting the window soon because we&#8217;ll be opening up the wall when we demo the room, and we can&#8217;t leave an open hole for very long.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2701129097_3fe2c0e9fe.jpg" border="0" alt="Kitchen from hall" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p>We want to open it up with a single large window centered between two pantries with bench storage just beneath it.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2797138788_460512e054.jpg" border="0" alt="model back_arch_bench_pantry_01" width="500" height="282" /></p>
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<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">We got a couple quotes from Heritage Windows and Home Depot that were really high &#8212; like over $5000 high.Â  After calling around a bit more to places like Marvin Windows and Pella, I got prices around $1500 for the window itself and another $1700 or so for installation.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">Obviously these would be new, energy efficient windows with all the handy hardware.Â  But they would be new windows, made in a factory according to a strict template.Â  In other words, we could choose the size, color and material, but that would be all.Â  This was a problem because all the frames I saw were simply too decorated and wouldn&#8217;t quite match the rest of the house.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">But sometimes you just stumble on things, and the plan changes.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">This past weekend we took a drive out to UBC.Â  Normally we take King Eddie, but like nearly every other major east-west road, it is now under construction.Â  So instead we took 33rd, which is somewhat less convenient.Â  Just as we passed Arbutus, Lola saw a giant spray paint sign that said &#8220;Demo Sale&#8221;.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">We pulled over and wandered in the house to take a look.Â  It&#8217;s took bad they&#8217;re demolishing the place, becuase it looked like it was really nice once upon a time.Â  However, decades of mistreatment from being partitioned into several rentals has pushed it beyond repair.Â  Their loss is our gain.Â  Everything was for sale.Â  Windows?Â  Yes.Â  Doors?Â  Yes.Â  Everything.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">So for about $200 we pickup a 3 paneled, double hung period windows that will just barely fit the space we have.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/2794973866_644e380a03.jpg" border="0" alt="window_front_01" width="500" height="364" /></p>
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<p>Sure we have to take them out ourselves, but that extra $1500Â in ourÂ pocket should make us feel better.</p>
<p>They have a door and some hardwoord flooring that we might also pick up.</p>
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